Churches are full of talk. I liked the comment of the Kremlin on the election of a new president in the Ukraine:
"Regarding the Ukrainian elections, so far it is too early to talk about any congratulatory wishes from President Putin to Mr. Zelensky, just as it is too early to talk about the possibility of working together. We will only be able to judge this on the basis of actual deeds by Zelensky."When one looks at a Church, what do its actual deeds reveal? That is "where it is at" -- not what the Church says, or its officers, or those say who are looking in. Jesus said: "You will know them by their fruit."